Episode 2: How Old is Too Old to Run for Office?

Most of America’s political power sits in the hands of people nearly twice the median age, but Amanda Litman is working to change that by helping a new generation step into office.

Topher sits down with Amanda to talk about the age gap in American leadership and what it means for the future of the country. Why are so few elected officials under 40? What happens when the same people hold power for decades without making room for new voices? Amanda shares how Run for Something has helped more than 1,500 young people win office across 49 states, and why she believes the next wave of leadership needs to look and lead differently. Amanda reflects on her own path into politics, from skipping school to see Barack Obama speak to launching a national movement after the 2016 election.

Along the way, she raises questions that anyone considering public service should ask: What does good leadership actually look like? How do we balance authenticity with responsibility? And what gets lost when no one’s preparing the next person to take the baton? This episode is an invitation to think seriously about power, potential, and the kind of country we’re building.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you're the kind of person who could run for office, Amanda’s answer is simple: if you care, you’re ready.